Recently, a “bishop” told congregants of some church that those who vote for Barack Obama are “going to hell.” There are many churches with bishops. The Roman and Anglican (Episcopal) and the United Methodist (once called the Methodist Episcopal) all have bishops.
Let’s take note that sane religious groups do not make such statements. But if we did, we certainly have plenty of reason to say, “don’t vote for Romney / Ryan or you will go to hell.” The biggest reason is Paul Ryan, but there are plenty of reasons why Mitt Romney is evil.
Let’s take Mitt Romney. He bullied gay people when in high school. You like that kind of man for president? A bully? You do, huh? You like that? How about if I, as a gay man, bullied YOU because you, as a man, have sex with a woman – out of wedlock? How about if I bullied YOU for not taking responsibility for your actions and just freely having sex with the “one who you are with?” HOW ABOUT THAT? Why don’t I bully people like that? Because of Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ taught us to love our neighbor. Jesus Christ taught us to do to one another as we would have done to ourselves. I don’t know about you who actually bother to read this post, but I would not bully myself, so why would I bully another person?
Then there is Paul Ryan. His worship of Ayn Rand makes him very evil. At least those Roman Catholics who accept gay people are following the words of Christ: love your neighbor and do unto others as you would have them do to you. The pope rejects the true Christians, but would accept a congregant who follows the words … no WORSHIPS … an atheist anarchist who believes no one should take responsibility for his/he actions? How can Paul Ryan have any conscience and attend a Roman Catholic Church? How can the pope accept such a person, but would deny John Kerry the sacraments because he supports gay people? John Kerry practices the true Christian religious beliefs. Paul Ryan and countless other HYPOCRITES are evil creatures doing the will of the beast whose name is created by adding a “d” to the word “evil.”
Barack Obama does not go around ADVOCATING abortion, but accepts the fact that women have a choice. Ayn Rand ADVOCATED abortions. Do people even realize this as they go to the polls in America?
But it’s being gay which impacts me. My freedom and liberty could be curtailed, should a Republican administration take charge. Does anyone even care enough to consider this? I am a RESPONSIBLE gay man, unlike the homosexuality promoted by Ayn Rand – “do your own thing and don’t give a damn about those around you.” “Love the one you’re with,” according to Ayn Rand.
Here I have spent a lifetime being careful to take responsibility for my actions. And due to a stupid Jewish woman – an atheist – her followers could really bully me by using churches and universities like Palm Beach Atlantic U. to do their dirty work. These irresponsible people who promote anarchy USE a bishop to tell his congregants to be self-righteous and judge a good man who has worked hard for the Middle Class for four years now. Stupid suckers in America who buy this crap from a bunch of paranoid losers fearful that they might be gay.
It matters not that I have had to endure those who FORCE me, using the fear of societal “traditions,” into heterosexual relationships when I truly was always gay. So, Mr. Rick Santorum, the devil himself, how did YOU lose your freedom and liberty? Who removed that from you, … you SOB? Who did that to you? And the owner of Chick-fil-a… who removed YOUR freedom and liberty? Did someone FORCE either of you bastards to marry someone of the same sex? Sorry to use such strong language, but if the truth were known, I wonder what these guys say under their breath about people like me?
Paul Ryan and Rick Santorum (and others) are paranoid losers propped up by a Nazi pope. PERIOD. And what did Jesus Christ have to say – FORCEFULLY – about HYPOCRITES? Maybe you should read your Bibles, Mr. Romney the bully and Mr. Paul Ryan and Mr. Rick Santorum. And I have a suggestion. Don’t rely on “traditions” and THEN go to the Bible to dredge up your stinko stuff. That’s called proof texting.
Romney is a paranoid bullying loser propped up by the money extracted from the members of his faith – as the elders in Salt Lake City command.
Where, Mr. George H.W. Bush, in the supposed “liberal” mainstream Media, do we hear what I just said? NO WHERE. Screw your “new world order,” Mr. Bush … and Mr. Romney. Screw your “kinder, gentler nation” horse shit, Mr. George H.W. Bush. HYPOCRITES – as Jesus Christ said.
All of you have a hidden agenda. Push gay people back into the closet or into drag. I despise drag and I don’t wish to be pushed back into a closet. There are gay people who might like drag, too. Let them like it. That is the freedom we are SUPPOSED to have in the USA, but which the witches of the right wing wish to deny us.
Consider this. There are many of us who truly are gay and are gay for many reasons, some of which consist of physical things like genetics and hormones and such. But the reason for being gay is not limited to physical reasons, either. But are there gay Ayn Rand worshipers who also maintain a hidden agenda? Are there gay people who pretend to be gay in order to NOT take responsibility for ones self in society and make loads of money? After all, with no kids to raise, a gay man can become filthy rich, don’t you know?
And that is the irony of the platform of the Republican Party. The position of that evil party is to trash gay people who are responsible, in favor of the Ayn Rand type of gay man or woman. Trash the ones who are responsible, then use an iron-fisted approach to those who insist on being outside the closet. Deny these responsible people finances and jobs and healthcare and retirement, don’t you know?
The gay couple who wishes to adopt a child from overseas. Trash them because they don’t fit the “traditional” definition of a family. But the promiscuous ones? Well… just don’t do it in front of us – same with you promiscuous heteros… just keep it quiet … and DON’T GET CAUGHT… or else! LOL! Shallowness! LOL!
The gay couple who wishes to live a private life in a committed relationship, rather than cruise the streets and bars. Trash them, too. But the ones who get their jollies from multiple partners – either hetero OR homo… why… just let them do their thing – the Ayn Rand way… go down low… with multiple partners…. be irresponsible, but … OH! don’t get caught doing it. And LOL! Shallow laugh!
Jesus Christ: “Satan is the father of the lie.” Jesus Christ: violent reaction against DECEPTIVE business people bilking the masses as they went to the synagogue.
Ayn Rand encourages promiscuity. Domestic partner and marriage / civil union laws acknowledge what Jesus Christ said. Ordination of gay clerics allows the ministering to those who are being responsible in committed relationships and having to face the horse shit of bullies like Romney – who apparently has Romnesia.
And yes, I may not be an executive like Lee Iacocca who published the words I just used. But I am no different from someone who has money – and don’t you forget it. Position does not give more rights to do something that others cannot do – and that includes the elevated position some people give the representative of Satan himself – the pope in Vatican City… or the elders in Salt Lake City. If you are a bully, you are a bully, Mitt Romney. It matters not how much goddamn money you have, Mittney, when you use if for evil purposes – like ship jobs overseas.
Ayn Rand followers promote promiscuity, whether it be in the heterosexual or homosexual communities. These are shallow people who lack compassion for their fellow human beings. “Down low” deceptiveness is okay, but not committed relationships and responsible families, regardless of sexual identity. They sucker in those of institutions like Palm Beach Atlantic University and other institutions promoting the destruction of gay people. Even those of us who are AGAINST abortion, but believe legislation of morality, a failure for centuries, is NOT the approach to use.
Nasty politics from nasty people who lack compassion. These people promote a vicious form of capitalism called crony fascist capitalism – based on Ayn Rand and Libertarian evil beliefs. I prefer the type of capitalism NOT modeled after Vatican City and Salt Lake City. I prefer democracy and democratic capitalism which consists of free market capitalism and nixes the huge corporate conglomerate monopolies which don’t compete, but destroy their competition. I prefer the model of capitalism of the ‘trust buster” and Republican who ran for president exactly 100 years ago – Teddy Roosevelt. Teddy Roosevelt and Nelson Rockefeller and Jacob Javitz were all better Republicans than the lot we have today which consist of evil people.
And that is the problem with the paranoid Taft family of Ohio. That election of 1912 split the Republican Party in half. Teddy Roosevelt had more people who believed his PROGRESSIVE REPUBLICAN way, but nasty right wing Howard Taft – with the smallest numbers – insisted in being right. Think about it. Where is the Taft family of Ohio today? What impact did that family have on the 2004 election? Think about it. Where are the Teddy Roosevelt folks today? I’ll tell you. They are being brushed aside by nasty Republican fascists today.
The ones who deserve respect are the responsible gay people today, not the Ayn Rand irresponsible ones. But nasty politics brush good people aside – as the nasty politics destroy good RESPONSIBLE people, too. The people who have actually worked hard to EARN their money, rather than take from others.
IndependentLens: Discussion about Bishop Gene Robinson
Jesus spoke of love for one another. The Old Testament focus in Leviticus was about a lack of children in society. Homosexuals did not perpetuate the birth of children, so were going against the grain of the society. Thus stringent measures were taken, which are not necessary in today’s society. Our world is different today, requiring all kinds of forms of loving families, even alternative families with same-sex parents, to lovingly care for children of unwanted pregnancies and from broken homes in an over-populated world.
Jesus Christ never endorsed traditionalism. Yet, in this program about Bishop Gene Robinson, there were those who talked about “2000 years of tradition.” So what? If the traditionalism is not the solution, then why do we stand by it? Jesus did not believe in idolatry. Yet, the man in this IndependentLens program… the man from California who repeatedly used the words, “Bible-believing,” sounded as if he worshiped the Bible, not God. That is idolatry and blasphemous and would NOT have been favorable to Jesus Christ.
In another portion of this program, a man speaking against the pro-same-sex measures of the Episcopal Church said, “The needs of the many outweighs the needs of the few.” Jesus Christ said, “the road to hell is large and spacious and many would be on that road; whereas the road to everlasting life, few would find it.” The words this man spoke before the Episcopal gathering were words abrasive to those of Jesus Christ. This recognition is the reason why our American justice system finally abolished Jim Crow measures against a minority. The larger numbers who persecuted the minority were/are evil in God’s eyes. Besides the fact… Jesus Christ said, “do unto others as you would have them do unto you.” “Love God; love your neighbor as yourself.”
The same book of the Old Testament speaking against homosexuality due to the need for more children also endorsed the stoning of rebellious children and forbade eating a number of foods, including shell fish. Why would we pick some and not the other? Because of men who don’t feel comfortable with themselves and who have endorsed continuing “traditions” which don’t mean a rat’s tail.
And at Genesis 19, there was only a threat of homosexual rape, but nothing actually took place. Yet, to hear the word, “sodomy,” one would believe there were explicit sexual acts at Sodom and Gomorrah. There were none. God disliked the violent rape, not the sexual acts.
Furthermore, the “traditions” at Sodom and Gomorrah were about deliverate violent homosexual rape acts with strangers visiting the area in order to discourage strangers from visiting. God had said those people should accept strangers in their midst, but they disobeyed God by promoting rape with strangers.
Glen Beck’s point about accepting civil unions, but not marriage, is not acceptable. Even when same-sex marriage is accepted, there is no church which can be forced to perform such acts, as long as the separation of church and state remains. No person should be forced or coerced into a same-sex union of any kind. Yet, millions upon millions of GLBT are coerced by tremendous societal / religious peer pressure and intimidation (how many times did we hear, “why are you not dating some girl?”) to marry someone of the opposite sex.
Jesus is about love and acceptance. He never turned anyone away, whether he/she might be a GLBT lay person, a pastor or priest, or a bishop. “There can be no peace without justice.”
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